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Postby everfae » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:05 am

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Your sketchbook looks a lot like mine. Frustrated little scribbles, swear words, me yelling at myself, scribbling all over my drawings!!
It sucks, but it's also nice to know I'm not the only one tearing up my sketchbook from time to time! Do avoid it if you can though, it'll only reinforce negative ideas and hinder your progress. I've been doing it for way too many years and it's only recently that I've started to ease up on that. But I can see you're already doing that and writing constructive notes to yourself on your sketches. It's good to see!

Really pushing for dynamism sounds like a good idea. I've never been able to analytically incorporate dynamism in my drawings, but sometimes it just happens by trial and error. I guess im not an analytical type artist. I hope pushing your torsos "too far" helps you! Sorry I can't say anything more constructive about drawing more dynamic poses. Just lots of gesture drawing I suppose!
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Postby Kyoobies » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:29 am

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everfae wrote:Your sketchbook looks a lot like mine. Frustrated little scribbles, swear words, me yelling at myself, scribbling all over my drawings!!
It sucks, but it's also nice to know I'm not the only one tearing up my sketchbook from time to time! Do avoid it if you can though, it'll only reinforce negative ideas and hinder your progress. I've been doing it for way too many years and it's only recently that I've started to ease up on that. But I can see you're already doing that and writing constructive notes to yourself on your sketches. It's good to see!

Really pushing for dynamism sounds like a good idea. I've never been able to analytically incorporate dynamism in my drawings, but sometimes it just happens by trial and error. I guess im not an analytical type artist. I hope pushing your torsos "too far" helps you! Sorry I can't say anything more constructive about drawing more dynamic poses. Just lots of gesture drawing I suppose!



Thank you for that! ^^ I feel like it's important for me to actually show this stuff in a sketchbook setting, because if I hid it, then people going through similar stuff would feel like they're failing. If in the future (When in the future :P) I have good, clean drawings that impress people, I want others aspiring to learn, to know that it is normal for this to happen; especially during a time like now where I am transitioning to mostly digital and need to re-learn basic lines.

But yes, keeping positive is very important for anything as well. The placebo effect it has on a person is way stronger than most realize. :D That's actually part of the reason why I swear and scribble actually, because to me it's more like "lol, totally f'd that one up! Haha oh well" to belittle the mistake and turn it into something dumb and insubstantial, while still recognizing that it exists. (Though that doesn't come through well on the paper alone)

Also thanks, and good luck to you with your gesture stuff as well. ^^
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Postby everfae » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:23 pm

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everfae wrote:Your sketchbook looks a lot like mine. Frustrated little scribbles, swear words, me yelling at myself, scribbling all over my drawings!!
It sucks, but it's also nice to know I'm not the only one tearing up my sketchbook from time to time! Do avoid it if you can though, it'll only reinforce negative ideas and hinder your progress. I've been doing it for way too many years and it's only recently that I've started to ease up on that. But I can see you're already doing that and writing constructive notes to yourself on your sketches. It's good to see!

Really pushing for dynamism sounds like a good idea. I've never been able to analytically incorporate dynamism in my drawings, but sometimes it just happens by trial and error. I guess im not an analytical type artist. I hope pushing your torsos "too far" helps you! Sorry I can't say anything more constructive about drawing more dynamic poses. Just lots of gesture drawing I suppose!



Thank you for that! ^^ I feel like it's important for me to actually show this stuff in a sketchbook setting, because if I hid it, then people going through similar stuff would feel like they're failing. If in the future (When in the future :P) I have good, clean drawings that impress people, I want others aspiring to learn, to know that it is normal for this to happen; especially during a time like now where I am transitioning to mostly digital and need to re-learn basic lines.

But yes, keeping positive is very important for anything as well. The placebo effect it has on a person is way stronger than most realize. :D That's actually part of the reason why I swear and scribble actually, because to me it's more like "lol, totally f'd that one up! Haha oh well" to belittle the mistake and turn it into something dumb and insubstantial, while still recognizing that it exists. (Though that doesn't come through well on the paper alone)

Also thanks, and good luck to you with your gesture stuff as well. ^^


It's super encouraging when artists plainly share their struggles, because too often we only see the "perfect" output of other artists, sans struggle. It's good to be reminded that everybody goes through this.
I also agree that it's good to minimise the burden of our mistakes so we can throw it away and move on :)
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Postby Kyoobies » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:42 am

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everfae wrote:It's super encouraging when artists plainly share their struggles, because too often we only see the "perfect" output of other artists, sans struggle. It's good to be reminded that everybody goes through this.
I also agree that it's good to minimise the burden of our mistakes so we can throw it away and move on :)


It's awesome to know that someone knows where I'm coming from. ^^

Here's some random stuff I drew last night. I forgot how long it ends up taking when drawing stuff like this, these took me forever for what they are. Some derps here and there, but they worked.
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Postby AntaresValdemar » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:28 am

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The perspective drawing of the mouse turned out great! Goes to show the power of thinking in basic shapes.

 

Postby Kyoobies » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:45 am

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I have to type this out again. :cry: oh well.

Well I've been slacking, but sorta not. Very busy with school, as well as a super secret project related to art. :roll: I'm also taking a figure drawing class, so that's awesome! :D I'm very derp atm, since I'm not used to things, but it's coming along well.

Some of the gestures that look like nothing lol. Need to fit them on the page better.
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We also did this cool thing where you use both hands, drawing the left and the right of the image at the same time.
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Then yesterday I started working on my sketchbook for that class. Figures, from life, in 3-5 minutes. Nothing else. It was also my first time drawing in pen. I really struggled with it, but some tiny things worked. :P
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Hopefully I'll get some more stuff done today. ^^
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Postby Kyoobies » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:49 am

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AntaresValdemar wrote:The perspective drawing of the mouse turned out great! Goes to show the power of thinking in basic shapes.


Oh, and thanks Antares. :D I definitely agree, simplifying things to basic geometry is one of the most helpful things ever in my opinion.
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Postby Kyoobies » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:03 am

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Here's some class stuff. Nothing exciting, but I wanna break my bad habit of wanting to upload, waiting, and never getting around to it. The contour line drawings especially killed me, but oh well. :P

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Postby Kyoobies » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:09 am

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.....Continuation of the last post, here's the next class meeting. The countour line drawings of the last three.... omg I hate drawing like that so much it just breaks my brain. :?

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Postby Kyoobies » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:18 am

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And a couple 5 minute things from life. I really need to draw more like this to fill the sketchbook up, but that involves going outside and stuff. >-<

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(Ha ha! And with these three posts, I'm now on the next sketchbook page finally :lol: )
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Postby z4m97 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:41 am

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Kyoobies wrote:And a couple 5 minute things from life. I really need to draw more like this to fill the sketchbook up, but that involves going outside and stuff. >-<

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(Ha ha! And with these three posts, I'm now on the next sketchbook page finally :lol: )

man these are great practice o3o
you're really pushing yourself with practice man, keep it up :D

 

Postby Kyoobies » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:19 pm

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Okay, now here's a fun one (at least I think so :P ).

It's the evolution of an idea for a pose I have.

So I started off by just drawing it, and it turned out (somewhat embarrassingly :lol: ) pretty derpy to me.

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I looked it over, and realized the problem was that I was so focused on wanting the fist to be in frame. I prioritized that, and it caused the whole pose to screw up. Also, the left elbow was looking weird, and I concluded that moving the hinge-point down and to the right would help.

Re-draw.

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Much better, but it still feels boring for some reason... Got it! I know why, it's because the punching arm is perpendicular to the camera. No matter how well you draw something, no matter how corrected it is, anything perpendicular to the camera will always look flat. So with the total control I have over a drawing, I have to make sure to add movement in 3d space somehow. And I'm still focusing too much on the fist! As long as the important part is there, I really don't need the whole thing. I can imply just a little bit, and people will easily fill in the rest. Remember that, it's just like cropping tightly (but in the center of the picture).

Also let's try curving the left elbow because experimenting and also page constraint lol. Aaaaaand nope. Since it's not fully extended one way or the other, it doesn't feel nearly as intense.

Let's re-draw the punching arm with more 3d oomph, and a willingness to hide the fist.

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Mmmmm, much better. ^^ I like it. *spontaneous realization* Oh yeah! Let's reeeeaaally push the arching of the shoulders too, because that's helping it nicely. Remember, you really intensely use your shoulders when you punch, plus dynamic shoulders are just as important as dynamic anything-else.

Let's test my left-arm fix real quick.

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Cool, much better. Time to draw it all out again!

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Awesome! It still has little kinks to work out, but I'm quite happy with it now. X3


--And that's pretty much how my brain worked during that drawing session. It was all pretty fun. :D

(Also I got some brush pens. ^^)
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z4m97 wrote:
Kyoobies wrote:And a couple 5 minute things from life. I really need to draw more like this to fill the sketchbook up, but that involves going outside and stuff. >-<

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(Ha ha! And with these three posts, I'm now on the next sketchbook page finally :lol: )

man these are great practice o3o
you're really pushing yourself with practice man, keep it up :D


Thanks! X] That's awesome to hear that it worked out well, since I'm quite new to it.
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actually the first one was almost right, just lower the forearm until part of it is obscured by the upper arm :D

 

Postby Ragamuffin » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:52 pm

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The gesture is looking pretty nice :)

 

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z4m97 wrote:actually the first one was almost right, just lower the forearm until part of it is obscured by the upper arm :D


Huh, you think so? I guess it could work, but I think it wouldn't have the over-extended, exaggerated style of pose I'm aiming for.
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Ragamuffin wrote:The gesture is looking pretty nice :)


Thanks! ^^
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Postby Koźlik » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:19 pm

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I like your thought process of fixing mistakes you spot in your drawings. Keep on posting more of your works! :)
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Postby Kyoobies » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:25 am

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Koźlik wrote:I like your thought process of fixing mistakes you spot in your drawings. Keep on posting more of your works! :)

Thanks Koz. ^^ I tend to do rather poorly when it comes to naturally and absentmindedly throwing things out, so I have to make up for it by objectively studying everything. But I love doing that, so it's fun. :3

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Here's something I did a few days ago, as part of my secret project to analyze the way Trigger draws stuff. But I changed my mind on stuff, so I'll post it now.

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I want to set a clear style for me to draw in when drawing from imagination, so that my art doesn't stay random and inconsistent, loosely imitating whatever I saw last. A sort of "correct answer" to allow me to improve with a clear and focused goal. And at first I decided to base that style off of kill la kill/trigger (for various reasons), with a super-cute-moe-style as a secondary style. But I was getting soooo excited about the idea of drawing the moe stuff, that I decided it would be better to switch my focus to that instead.

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This was all done from reference to a pixiv artist named Maako. Here's some of their stuff.
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"Ehm aye moh-eh yet?"
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Postby Snakebreath » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:21 am

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Great studies! I'd love to see some more personal stuff, your drawing style (from what ive seen so far) is really appealing! Keep it up :D

 

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that last page is the cutest thing ever ._.

 

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Snakebreath wrote:Great studies! I'd love to see some more personal stuff, your drawing style (from what ive seen so far) is really appealing! Keep it up :D

Thank you! :D I've held off on person stuff for quite a while, but I'm just about ready to start drawing it now. It'll come very soon. ^^

z4m97 wrote:that last page is the cutest thing ever ._.

If I draw something that you find cute, then I know I've succeeded. (≧◡≦)
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Your linework is getting more efficent means their numbers decrease to describe form and shapes are getting bigger that´s a good sign. If you are aiming for the extrem styles in the kill la kill examples you´ve shown i think focusing on more simple shapes putting proportions in relation to each other would be a good exercise for you. Sweep your pencil across the paper and take it off as less as possible.
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Postby Kyoobies » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:13 am

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Alphawolfin wrote:Your linework is getting more efficent means their numbers decrease to describe form and shapes are getting bigger that´s a good sign. If you are aiming for the extrem styles in the kill la kill examples you´ve shown i think focusing on more simple shapes putting proportions in relation to each other would be a good exercise for you. Sweep your pencil across the paper and take it off as less as possible.


Yaaaaay! \(^▽^)/ I've always had really thick lines that I constantly redraw, so that's quite the compliment to me. And I agree, that makes sense. The simpler the shapes, the easier they are to warp.

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A bit of a throwaway page, nothing special. The derp on the right was me explaining a thing to a friend.
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And this fun one. I had washed my car today, so I wanted to draw someone washing a car. Also new pen = hard pen. :cry:
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I really need to draw faces more, they've always been tough for me. Tele, I might borrow your response method to force me to do so. (≧◡≦)
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Postby Kyoobies » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:55 am

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More stuff! I'd typically rather wait to post school stuff, dumping a bunch at once. But this extra spoopy class is worth sharing.
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And for the personal sketchbook, a page of Maako studies. Each image I did had theirs as reference. I'm getting pretty happy with these, but I really need to work on heads and hair. (>﹏<) I also feel like I'm getting better at drawing from ref in general, it used to break my brain and make me derp out. So that's good.

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That spooky class looks so cool. I wish i was there ,_,
One thing you can keep in mind when drawing skeleton is that the spine is 3D shape too made out of cylinders
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Also keep on studying, keep on drawing from refs and imagination and you'll keep on getting better :D
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