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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:42 pm
by 123mine123
Hello everyone! I am a 19 year old guy and a hobbyist cartoonist who is trying to learn and improve my drawing skills to meet my goal of someday creating some kind of comic thing. :D
I won't do this as my job, but drawing is something I just really like doing and improve upon to create stuff with a pen and a computer.

Annd I'm gonna tell my story I guess on why and when I started drawing.

I've always been drawing random doodles as a kid.
And this is one of the stuff I was able to salvaged. xD
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Skip to somewhere around September of 2012, I was able to draw this.
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I was like, "Wow, with reference, I can draw all the fan art I want!"

And draw fan arts I did... (examples)
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This probably went on around 7 months.. and then stopped drawing altogether because it got boring and I'm not improving at all.

Then, at November 2013, I found this super beautiful and awesome webcomic called Lackadaisy.
It's art style is just something I really, really want to be able to draw. It gave me a new spark to improve and to create my very own art style!
So, I went to Newgrounds and created an art thread where I could submit my drawings and my progress. And also to ask for advice a criticism.
Here are some of the early stuff I made and also "progress" I might've had.
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And took a knack at the digital painting biz.
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And my friend taught me how to paint.
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And a few character designing along the way.
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But just 6 days ago, I asked one of the awesome artists in Newgrounds some help.
A user (Havegum) helped me and actually gave me exercises to do!
I've been drawing gestures,perspective practice, and heads everyday. Actual studies..
I used to avoid this because to me, I know I would fail and it wouldn't be as fun.
But I'm actually having fun and with a motivation to not disappoint, I'm doing this as I can.
Here are some of the stuff I've been doing the past six days.

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So that's my story. Sorry for bombarding you with tons of images. xD
I'll be here looking for critique and advice on how I can improve, so feel free to comment below.
Thanks and have a nice day!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:18 am
by Heartpoppin
123mine123 wrote:Sorry for bombarding you with tons of images. xD

Well this is a place to post your sketches or whatever you want art related so I think you'll be fine :lol:
And this is the place to get critiques and advice to improve. I really love that painting you did with the potato (?) walking it's pet. And your recent gesture studies do look great. I feel like you're so close to understanding how faces works, just keep practicing and observing, you'll get it. A little thing I noticed with that grey scale study you did, it looks like you went in right away with the light colors, like I feel like there should be more darks. Try using the darkest colors first and paint on the lights. I think if you'd googled "Planes of the face" on image search you'd get some really good references to study with :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:15 am
by MKmiec
123mine123 wrote:I've been drawing gestures,perspective practice, and heads everyday. Actual studies..
I used to avoid this because to me, I know I would fail and it wouldn't be as fun.


I know it exactly. Before I started to think about art seriously I've never learnt basics 'cause I thought it's not necessary (What?!) or it's gonna be borring or whatever excuse I could find. But I can tell you, maybe for a little bit of motivation, that there is nothing more satisfied than seeing your drawings getting better because you're improving your basics. And try to look at the process of learning in other way. I told myself that it's not borring but exciting process, like "what new I'm gonna learn today?", "wow, finally hand starts to look like a hand", it kinda helped me and now I'm learning basics almost every day and always feel really impatient to start my "lesson" ^^

I can see that you're imrpoving, can't wait to see more. Don't give up and keep working! :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:21 am
by Point.7lead
damn you are owning those perspective shots. and i think your animals you draw from reference really stand out.

cool thing about cartoons is that you really don't have to give a funk about proper proportions. i mean hell look at dexters lab (that i'm watching as i type this), invader zim and the like. not saying you should go less quality or anything. just saying you can care less about curtain things with cartoons and really play with styles of shapes and symbols (plus cartoons are easy peazey to whip out a quick skit for). a little bit of structure can go along way. I see you trying to add more from that base circle, yeah! do more of that, you should be adding to that circle rather than working inside it, makes it pop out more.

honestly It's a good start, needs more solid lines... but I'm actually impressed on how creative you went with some of the perspective scenes, the buildings and what not, i see a lot of imagination going on, which i like. but yes... work more on structure and try to add more depth to it. which proko does a good 1 2 on.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:59 pm
by 123mine123
Heartpoppin wrote:Well this is a place to post your sketches or whatever you want art related so I think you'll be fine :lol:
And this is the place to get critiques and advice to improve. I really love that painting you did with the potato (?) walking it's pet. And your recent gesture studies do look great. I feel like you're so close to understanding how faces works, just keep practicing and observing, you'll get it. A little thing I noticed with that grey scale study you did, it looks like you went in right away with the light colors, like I feel like there should be more darks. Try using the darkest colors first and paint on the lights. I think if you'd googled "Planes of the face" on image search you'd get some really good references to study with :roll:


Lol, yeah its a potato walking its pet fish. My friend, Daker, and I was talking in skype and he suggested me drawing a potato with a hat walking a walking fish.
As for the coloring the grey scale thing... I really suck at painting and had no idea what I'm doing. I completely forgot to start with base color and just chose a lighter one as my "base." I'll focus more on my anatomy first before values and compositions.. Well, except if that got boring and just want to do something random. :3
Also, my friend Daker also gave me that planes of the head thing which is gonna be useful for the future. Thanks for the advice!

MKmiec wrote:I know it exactly. Before I started to think about art seriously I've never learnt basics 'cause I thought it's not necessary (What?!) or it's gonna be borring or whatever excuse I could find. But I can tell you, maybe for a little bit of motivation, that there is nothing more satisfied than seeing your drawings getting better because you're improving your basics. And try to look at the process of learning in other way. I told myself that it's not borring but exciting process, like "what new I'm gonna learn today?", "wow, finally hand starts to look like a hand", it kinda helped me and now I'm learning basics almost every day and always feel really impatient to start my "lesson" ^^
I can see that you're imrpoving, can't wait to see more. Don't give up and keep working! :)


Yeah, I know right. It's actually quite fun once you get the hang of it. But, I am still suffering with procrastination...

Point.7lead wrote:damn you are owning those perspective shots. and i think your animals you draw from reference really stand out.

cool thing about cartoons is that you really don't have to give a funk about proper proportions. i mean hell look at dexters lab (that i'm watching as i type this), invader zim and the like. not saying you should go less quality or anything. just saying you can care less about curtain things with cartoons and really play with styles of shapes and symbols (plus cartoons are easy peazey to whip out a quick skit for). a little bit of structure can go along way. I see you trying to add more from that base circle, yeah! do more of that, you should be adding to that circle rather than working inside it, makes it pop out more.

honestly It's a good start, needs more solid lines... but I'm actually impressed on how creative you went with some of the perspective scenes, the buildings and what not, i see a lot of imagination going on, which i like. but yes... work more on structure and try to add more depth to it. which proko does a good 1 2 on.


Most of the perspective shots are copies from various places in street view, you know, to see how perspective works. It's one of the exercises I was told to do.
But for every 3 I did, I try doing 2 on my imagination, which is I hope is kinda decent. xD
Those animal drawings, yeah, thanks. xD I haven't drawn a lot of animal drawings though these past few months. Imma focus on teh heads cuz it's harder. D:

As for the cartoons, idk, I'm not really sure what style I'm going for. I think I do have my own style and way when drawing characters, but as for my end goal, I want to do something that's kinda not that cartoony similar to Don Bleuth or past Disney films.
Learning anatomy can make simplifying it easier and not look.. weird.
And, I agree, I'm not really confident with my lines. My tablet is so small (5'8") that I got used to using my wrist instead of my shoulders. I hope I could get out of that habit and get a better tablet someday..
Thanks for all the advice!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:12 pm
by 123mine123
When I get to college, I'm gonna take computer science to study programming.
However, the next school year is still next year, so in the mean time, I'm gonna take a job.
I'll probably be able to take that job somewhere in October, so I hope I won't be as busy and still continue to draw.

Anyway, I'm going to the place where I'm gonna work in this 3 days.
Not gunna be able to draw much, but I'll teh best I can.

Daily drawings for the day. Not much. :c

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And as for the last picture, there's this game I really like to play called Transformice.
And over at their forums, they're having an art contest! Prizes are stupid, but I love joining at contest for the fun of it.
So far, I've added the mannequins.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:23 am
by 123mine123
Daily gestures and did more stuff on the mice thing.
Really gotten lazy and tired.. ugh.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:31 pm
by 123mine123
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:52 pm
by 123mine123
Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you the painting technique that is this!
Which I still don't know if its the most efficient or inefficient way to paint.
Where I just paint out the silhouette and create many many clipping mask layers to each silhouette. :3
Helps me organize layers though.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:38 pm
by 123mine123
Definitely, this is by far hardest thing I have ever worked on.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:56 am
by Heartpoppin
I really like that painting you did, but I can't help to notice how flat your characters looks
I know I don't use construction lines much myself but if I was having some trouble trying to imagine something in 3d I'd probably use some guidelines. You know the creator of lackadaisy made a tutorial on construction lines. Even if you did know I think it's a good idea to look at it and try to refresh your memory link

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:10 pm
by 123mine123
Heartpoppin wrote:I really like that painting you did, but I can't help to notice how flat your characters looks
I know I don't use construction lines much myself but if I was having some trouble trying to imagine something in 3d I'd probably use some guidelines. You know the creator of lackadaisy made a tutorial on construction lines. Even if you did know I think it's a good idea to look at it and try to refresh your memory link


Yeah, I get what you mean.
It has been also acknowledge by my other friend over in Newgrounds.
Making really flat character is definitely something I need to work on. And probably add more extra guidelines than just a cross through a sphere.
Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:33 pm
by 123mine123
Some daily stuff from 2 days ago to now.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:41 am
by Heartpoppin
Those gestures are looking great
and those sketches of those ferrets, I love them tbh. Keep going!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:38 am
by Hybridcity
Those transformice drawings though.

You're doing good :3

Keep it up

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:01 pm
by 123mine123
Heartpoppin wrote:Those gestures are looking great
and those sketches of those ferrets, I love them tbh. Keep going!


Will do!

Hybridcity wrote:Those transformice drawings though.
You're doing good :3
Keep it up


Yup!

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Wow. been really busy this past few days.
Not much done, but at least still done something..

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:06 pm
by Oli
cool stuff in here. I love how you painted that fox

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:17 am
by 123mine123
Oli wrote:cool stuff in here. I love how you painted that fox


Huh. Really? Cause all I did was choose a random color and colored it for no real reason...
Thanks anyway.

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What I did the past 2 days.
Kinda getting tired of studies and also have this programming course I'm also focusing on.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:53 am
by ErnieTheMighty
so much lackadaisy inspired stuff

AHHH LOVING THIS PLEASE POST MORE BOYS

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:41 pm
by 123mine123
ErnieTheMighty wrote:so much lackadaisy inspired stuff

AHHH LOVING THIS PLEASE POST MORE BOYS


lol thanks. But if hope I'm not copying Lackadaisy too much..
It's an art style I love, but not something I want to be mimicking.
Also, what do you mean by boys? .-.

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Just leaving out my thoughts...

Well, it's happening again. Too busy to draw.. :c
As maybe some of you know, I'm really not that busy finishing high school and still waiting for the next school year for college.
And I'm taking computer science as my course on hopes to fulfill my dream of creating games.
In the meantime, I spent my free time in learning how to draw, not only for the art skills, but to maybe improve my creativity or to create something entirely on my own.

A week ago, my friend Daker invited me to learn program with him.
I accepted, and now I'm learning how to program.
I had this digital books given to me by my bro-in-law (he works programming) and just really did not touch it until now.
And I've come to that time of me again being too preoccupied with something to draw.
I just try to prioritize something I think is better for me to learn.
And because of drawing daily these past few months, I kinda feel guilty not doing my drawrings.

Ugh..
Anyway, my new schedule would probably go:
Wake up.
Do Chores.
Study Java.
If there's time, draw anything at least an hour.

In a more positive note, I think I've really improved since one year ago..
It's almost 1 year anniversary of when I started posting these stuff in Newgrounds.. yey!
And the doodles I did above is something I could NEVER do a year ago. xD
*happy*

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:48 pm
by 123mine123
Stuff done from a week ago till now.

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Annd wip

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:18 am
by 123mine123
Having fun with my ink brush and a .3 gel pen.

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It has been a year since I decided to become serious because of the comic Lackadaisy.
Drew this to celebrate it! :D

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:11 am
by 123mine123
I think this is going well..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:02 am
by ErnieTheMighty
OH MY GOD I LOVE IT SO MUCH <33333333 what a cutie <3333

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:14 am
by 123mine123
ErnieTheMighty wrote:OH MY GOD I LOVE IT SO MUCH <33333333 what a cutie <3333


Whoa. .-.
Why thank you! C:

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And quickie.
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