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Postby Green » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:59 am

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Postby Green » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:10 pm

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I need help with drawing from my imagination but would anyone mine critiquing the way I draw faces here, they all look unrealistic and frankly most are ugly.

Studies I did today.
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Postby fleur » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:15 pm

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The more you practice something, the easier it is to replicate it when drawing from memory.
I think I've noticed on most of them the eyes are too far up the head and the noses are too long.
Look for essential angles in the face when using photo reference to get likeness :)
Honestly, it's practice more than anything and make sure you look at proportion grids such as this http://www.artyfactory.com/portraits/pe ... head_3.gif to make sure you're on the right lines.
Keep up the work!
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Postby Green » Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:41 am

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fleur wrote:The more you practice something, the easier it is to replicate it when drawing from memory.
I think I've noticed on most of them the eyes are too far up the head and the noses are too long.
Look for essential angles in the face when using photo reference to get likeness :)
Honestly, it's practice more than anything and make sure you look at proportion grids such as this http://www.artyfactory.com/portraits/pe ... head_3.gif to make sure you're on the right lines.
Keep up the work!

Studies with Fleur's advice applied.
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Postby James-Logose » Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:29 am

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As others have pointed out, on top of iffy proportions, your faces also lack depth and dimension. Study facial construction with basic shapes and that should improve that. Break up the face as simply as you can and go from there. (Much like what you're doing with your nose studies, just applied to the entire face). The go to for that would be Loomis, if you can get your hands on one of his books. Keep up the hard work, don't forget to really think about your studies, why you're doing them, and what you're learning. Repetition and brute force helps, but really analyzing things can help you get pretty decent fairly quickly.

Anyways, good luck!

 

Postby Green » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:19 am

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James-Logose wrote:As others have pointed out, on top of iffy proportions, your faces also lack depth and dimension. Study facial construction with basic shapes and that should improve that. Break up the face as simply as you can and go from there. (Much like what you're doing with your nose studies, just applied to the entire face). The go to for that would be Loomis, if you can get your hands on one of his books. Keep up the hard work, don't forget to really think about your studies, why you're doing them, and what you're learning. Repetition and brute force helps, but really analyzing things can help you get pretty decent fairly quickly.

Anyways, good luck!

Dimension, mind explaining what you mean? If you are pointing out my lines on hair I can understand since I am very uncertain with that. How do I add depth to the faces I know your right about them being flat but how can I make them more dimensional?

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Postby fleur » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:46 pm

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Good job with the studies, your proportions are looking better already :)
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Postby GinRoy » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:41 pm

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The head with Fleur's adive applied really help you, just gotta keep mapping out what goes where to understand :D
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Postby fivyrn » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:45 pm

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I think a problem you're facing is that you're relying too much on "does this look right as a hand" or "is this a good size for a nose" etc etc.

I think you should try and look at it more as a bunch of simple geometric shapes (i.e. circle, square, triangle) and use those to flesh out your pictures rather than viewing something as a complex shape.

I probably didn't do a good job of explaining what I mean, but yeah! Good luckkkkkk~.

 

Postby Green » Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:41 pm

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fleur wrote:Good job with the studies, your proportions are looking better already :)
GinRoy wrote:The head with Fleur's adive applied really help you, just gotta keep mapping out what goes where to understand :D
fivyrn wrote:I think a problem you're facing is that you're relying too much on "does this look right as a hand" or "is this a good size for a nose" etc etc.

I think you should try and look at it more as a bunch of simple geometric shapes (i.e. circle, square, triangle) and use those to flesh out your pictures rather than viewing something as a complex shape.

I probably didn't do a good job of explaining what I mean, but yeah! Good luckkkkkk~.


Thanks for the advice! Glad I'm getting better with my studies. :D

More studies, I have a better handle on proportion but I still need to practice that again before they start to look solid.
Here is a recording of how one of the faces was drawn in real time: http://recordit.co/XJ94x5ntYw
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Postby axelsior » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:34 am

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Faces really are hard to draw realistically, but the way you're approaching it kind of reminds me of the way comic book artists draw faces. Maybe make a study out of that?

 

Postby Green » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:57 pm

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axelsior wrote:Faces really are hard to draw realistically, but the way you're approaching it kind of reminds me of the way comic book artists draw faces. Maybe make a study out of that?

That's a great idea Axelsior! These are studies of Jack Kirby comic book covers!
Ref from here: http://comicsalliance.com/jack-kirby-dc ... -birthday/
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Postby Green » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:57 pm

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Postby marvel57 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:06 pm

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Jack Kirby woo! :D

 

Postby Green » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:28 am

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marvel57 wrote:Jack Kirby woo! :D

Yeah! I thought of him right when axelsior mentioned comics.

Studies of head proportion.
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Postby Diathorn » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:02 pm

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Hey, i can see you are improving a lot so i went and did some little adjustments to your profile stuff

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sorry for ugly handwriting and i hope it will help you draw more and more appealing stuff~!!

 

Postby axelsior » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:04 am

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What Diathorn said; I think the jawline is what puts it off the most. Aside from that, keep in mind that everyone's profiles can be different, so it may be worthwhile studying that too, and not draw the same profile over and over again. Looking at skulls too should help you figure out the jawline and cheekbones, etc.

 

Postby Green » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:03 am

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Diathorn wrote:Hey, i can see you are improving a lot so i went and did some little adjustments to your profile stuff

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sorry for ugly handwriting and i hope it will help you draw more and more appealing stuff~!!


Looking at your adjustments now made me realize the way I used a guide on those side view heads was wrong!
This time I have corrected them and they look much better in my opinion.
I also used this guide for these studies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS6R2l8t8wo&list=PL39135B8D190B7C97

axelsior wrote:What Diathorn said; I think the jawline is what puts it off the most. Aside from that, keep in mind that everyone's profiles can be different, so it may be worthwhile studying that too, and not draw the same profile over and over again. Looking at skulls too should help you figure out the jawline and cheekbones, etc.

Nice suggestion I added a skull to my studies but I will do another one later, I rushed the skull so its not as good as it could have been.
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Postby Green » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:11 am

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Skull study.
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Postby ErnieTheMighty » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:40 am

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Nice skull study!

 

Postby Diathorn » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:16 pm

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The skull is really good. Good job~!!

 

Postby axelsior » Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:00 am

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Looks good - you got the shape and form down pretty well on those skulls. Make use of that in your heads now!

 

Postby Green » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:16 am

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ErnieTheMighty wrote:Nice skull study!
Diathorn wrote:The skull is really good. Good job~!!
axelsior wrote:Looks good - you got the shape and form down pretty well on those skulls. Make use of that in your heads now!

Thanks!

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Postby Green » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:53 am

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Postby Green » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:52 am

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